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----------> -------> ---> It goes without saying...
You can copy the salesmen and companies that are the leaders. You can do more today within the electronic medium than ever before, and what you don't know, find out about it. You will find that the experts are willing to share and tell you HOW THEY DID IT -- If it goes without saying then it would go even further if you said something. ;-) So say it!

-- One attribute I do have is the ability to stand and hold my own in a conversation - and there has been many a time when I have taken the lead and mildly nudged or steered the conversation 'my way.' --
You may have noticed this?

-- I give the conversation Direction.

-- On the one hand, I keep my mouth shut and listen to what is being spoken. I find that I learn more from listening than from talking. -- I know what I would say and I want to learn about the other speaker, and to do that, I have to be attentive.-- This makes who I am listening to, to think that they're smarter than I am because I listen to them.-- And don't you feel smarter when you're talking and your listener is listening, attentively? Sure you do.

-- "Blessed is the man who, having nothing to say, abstains from giving us worthy evidence of the fact."
-- George Eliot

-- Have you observed that teachers in the classroom are asking leading questions? They prove to you that you are smart (or dumb) by asking you your opinion, -- "What do you think about..?"

-- By doing that, the teacher brings out the entire classroom: 1. Finds the smarter students to give the higher grades. 2. Makes sure that the homework is worked upon. 3. Re-emphasizes the important details. 4. Even the wrong answers will bring out the correct answers. 5. It drums in the knowledge.

-- Hold it -- Stop!! --> What is being gained from what was just stated?: Simply this, "That nothing will ever be sold until a good Salesman [teacher] sells it." The teacher masters this art -- this skill of selling when drawing out the main points. -- Some are born with it; most have been trained by selling experts.

-- YOU are our "Salesman" example.

-- Call it 'Marketing' and it still boils down to one-on-one selling. Especially when YOU introduce a new concept, new idea, new anything. -- YOU --

-- [Trade Secret: Feed your listener bits of information. Let them digest it. Let them comment. Tell them a little more. Let them comment. They'll get off the subject. Steer them back. Bring them back. Nod your head up-and-down positively. Notice them agreeing. Stop selling. Write-up the sale. Add positive features. Make listener feel good about what they did.]

-- Remember this: Sell Yourself, Sell Your Product, and Sell Your Company or Organization.

-- Because, if done in that order, YOU have the ability to go on. By that I mean, you can always find another product to sell. You can always find another company or manufacturer to sell it from. You can (like a jugler) take on more products and more companies. You can convince others to sell for you. You can copy the salesmen and companies that are the leaders. You can do more today within the electronic medium than ever before, and what you don't know, find out about it. You will find that the experts are willing to share and tell you HOW THEY DID IT.

-- Learn about "The Six-Degrees of Separation."

-- Psychologist, Stanley Milgram, over thirty years ago began an experiment to uncover the connection in our personal network of friends and acquaintances. It reveled that we each have three-hundred acquaintances of which we are on a first name terms. That suggests we're just one handshake from three-hundred people, two away from 90,000, three from 27 million and so on.

-- Viewed this way, it only takes as many as five or six handshakes to connect every American to every other. -- An average of four would connect up to 250,000,000. -- Everyone on Planet Earth is separated from everyone else by no more than six degrees of separation, or six friends of friends. :-) IT'S WHO YOU KNOW AS WELL AS WHAT YOU KNOW.

-- "Be sure" by networking with and through the IASL. - We'll shake on that. ;-)

-- "New Social Networking Site Now in Business ... for Business" --

-- "Making a wrong decision is understandable. Refusing to search continually for learning is not." -- Philip Crosby, Reflections on Quality

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From: Terry Livell
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:35 AM
To: president@inventorsconnection.org
Subject: RE: Questions on how to proceed.

Dear Sir,

My name is Terry Livell. I am a disabled Vietnam veteran. I have a prodict (tool) that I want to sell the manufacturing right to, to some coamapny. I had a product feasibility and patent search done ane it came back open and was agreed with as to its positive need and sales potential.

I am trying to take my drawing, and tool to sell the limited manufacturing rights to a companies such a Mikita, Black and Decker, or simular tool makers. I would like to find someone to guide me through the proceedure for bringing my product to fruition.

Please advise.

Sincerely,

Terry Livell
636-333-2034h
636-368-1218c

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From: Robert Scheinkman

To: Terry Livell

Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 11:06:33 AM
Subject: RE: Questions on how to proceed.

Terry Livell

Spend a few minutes (or hours) reading the Inventors Association of St. Louis's website. You'll be glad you did.

http://www.inventorsconnection.org/Topics/53215.1080.html

http://www.inventorsconnection.org/

Then come to our IASL Meeting on July 16th, 2009:

http://www.inventorsconnection.org/Topics/42646.html#Meetings

Robert Scheinkman, President/Director
Retired Chief Personnelman, USNR-R

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From: Terry Livell
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2009 2:37 PM
To: Robert Scheinkman
Subject: Re: Questions on how to proceed.

Dear Sir,
I have read over and over the info on the email you have sent me, but, I still do not understand how to proceed. Please advise me in a clearer way, I don't seem to fully understand.

Sincerely,
Terry Livell

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To: Terry Livell
From: Robert Scheinkman
Subject: Re: Questions on how to proceed.
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009 3:20 PM

Terry Livell:

How to Proceed !!

1. Forget that you thought of "a good idea." Millions of others are out there thinking up ideas, too, so check it out. ---> Yours may be already thought of?

2. If you can't give up this dumb idea that you have, realize that someone else thought-it-up a long time before you and published the information.

3. Therefore, you can't get a patent for even a genius idea when it was described more than 365-days ago. --> The USPTO says that you can't!!

4. O.K. You are still determined to make it and sell it and make money from it..

-- There is no law that says that you must get a patent for it. All it says is that you must not infringe on another's live patent.

5. The chances are very good that the guy or gal or company that received that U.S. Patent didn't take it to market. Look them up and offer your services..

6. You can take a patent that has expired and have it made according to the directions on the patent. You do not have to pay a dime to the previous owner of the patent. --> How about THAT!!

7. Look out for the upgraded patents on those that you wanted to copy. The newer, alive patent, has teeth in it and could bite you.

8. There are many "alive" patents that can be licensed to you, if you pay the patent owners.

9. You are 'small potatoes' to the big inventors and it will cost them more in legal fees in making you quit copying their live product than to let you be. They will ignore you or threaten you with a legal proclamation to cease and desist. (You'd better get a defence lawyer. - You have a big problem now with legal fees.)

10. And another thing: You can put out a Google search and it's a bet that somewhere in this world there is 'a one of that thing' that you think should be invented (by you.) --> Purchase it.

At this point, if you want to be a successful inventor, read what I have written. Take your time. Do Inventing for a Hobby.

Or/And

Go to a Patent Attorney and pay $175 per hour, or more, plus the Patent Fees in his or her attempt to get you a U.S. Patent.

Once you have your Patent, you will be called an Inventor. --> Now, what will you do with that certificate? --> Frame it on the wall. Be proud of it.

"There must be more," you say.

Aha! That is the reason for this IASL Website.. to make you aware of the marketing of your invention. --> Only 2% of those who receive a patent make enough money to be re-imbursed for the money they have outlaid in getting their patent.
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To: Terry Livell
From: Robert Scheinkman
Subject: Re: Questions on how to proceed.
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009 7:43 PM

Terry Livell - Terry

Go to:

http://www.inventorsconnection.org/Topics/53267.1190.html#PatentMyths

Robert Scheinkman, President
president@inventorsconnection.org

http://www.inventorsconnection.org/

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-- 10 Habits Of Top Producing Salespeople. Do You Practice Them? --

-- Allen Minster, partner with Frontline Advisors, was hired by a large insurance company to selectively interview and survey the company's top producing sales people. This company defined "top producer" as a sales representative that generated over $250,000 in commissions (not salary or bonus)! As a result of this study, he identified 10 habits that top producers practice on a daily basis.

-- 1. Continual Prospecting.
-- Most sales people know that they should prospect daily, but few have developed a tightly defined system of approaching people that they have never done business with.

-- 2. Close Attention To Detail.
-- Top producers consistently take care of the "little things" that mean so much to existing customers and prospects. A well-timed birthday card, news article about the client's business, etc., means so much in demonstrating concern for others.

-- 3. Consistently Ask For Referrals.
-- Very few sales representatives ever ask for referrals? We believe that the reluctance to ask for referrals is the same reluctance that keeps sales people from prospecting. All salespeople that want to rise above the average must overcome this reluctance..

-- 4. High Activity Focused On Interest And Qualified Prospects.
-- Top producers qualify a prospect's ability to buy (authority and resources) before they invest time trying to build interest.

-- 5. Maximize "Face Time" With Prospects.
-- The only time that matters is the time that you spend with a prospect. Any activity that is not with a prospect or client is better done after prime selling hours.

-- 6. Meticulous Follow Through.
-- It is imperative that sales organizations build an effective selling system that ensures that persistent follow through.

-- 7. Focus On Customer Retention And Satisfaction.
-- To build market share, companies must focus on new business and customer retention. There is no value in gaining five new customers if six are leaving due to poor customer service.

-- 8. Always Respond With Appropriate Personal And Courteous Contacts.
-- It is surprising what a birthday or anniversary card will buy. Enough said!!!

-- 9. Extremely Time Conscious.
-- Top producers do not waste time on useless activity that does not move them toward their goals.

-- 10. Goal (Outcome) Oriented.
-- Effective sales producers understand the importance of knowing exactly what they want to accomplish.

-- "Simple Luxuries Thrive in Depressed Economy- Entrepreneur.com" --

-- The retailer only makes so much profit on each item and if the cost on handling the paper work to get it replaced or fixed is greater than the profit, they will ask for a scrap percentage. -- "When negotiating a contract with the Big Boys for the sale of your product, it's not unusual to hear the term scrap percentage tossed into the conversation.
-- In today's throw away economy where the slightest little defect or dislike brings the purchased item back to the retailer for a refund, (with no questions asked,) the retailer acknowledgs that in many cases it is easier and cheaper to scrap the piece than try to fix or salvage it.
-- The retailer only makes so much profit on each item and if the cost on handling the paper work to get it replaced or fixed is greater than the profit, they will ask for a scrap percentage. Example: If they think they will get 3 out of 100 units returned, they will order 100 but only pay for 97. [This,] whether they actually have that many units returned or not could also just be another way the retailer hopes to increase their bottom line profit. -- Retailers in the grocery business may have a scrapping percentage of 8%-10% on perishables." -- Minnessota's Inventors Network

-- -- "Noodles, reinvented" -- --

-- "Whatever you can do, or dream you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it." -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

-- -- "Inventions - Invention Showcase -- New Inventions - Patent Showcase" -- --

- So, always have three to chose from as the 'rule of thumb.' If you can't make three that are different, have three kinds of packages. Give your buyer a selection.
-- Don't make a prototype of your idea thinking that that's the way to invent.
It doesn't work that way at all. You don't waste your time making something to sell to others that is readily available. If you want to make it for yourself, for your own use and can't find one anywhere else like it, fine, make it.

Go ahead, if you must, re-invent the wheel. -- :-( --->

-- First, do your research. You'll find that whatever you find that is close to your idea will inspire you to make a better one.

-- Good. Better. Best. Have a Selection. Don't just make it good unless 'good' is selling for you. Make it better or make it best. - 'Best,' often doesn't sell in a mass marketplace. - So, always have three to chose from as the 'rule of thumb.' If you can't make three that are different, have three kinds of packages. Give your buyer a selection. - Who knows? - You might even sell the three instead of sellng only one?
It's only human nature to make choices. :-)

-- It goes without saying.. "Delay is preferable to error." -- Thomas Jefferson

-- After checking everything that's out there ahead of you, make a prototype; a virtual prototype may do. Examine it, improving your concept, but don't start production yet. - Some inventors scrapped their first, second, third prototypes before choosing their 'right' model.

-- We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we already have done." -- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow -- We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we already have done." -- Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

-- Employment Agreement -- "Basically a standard employment agreement says, if you have invented something while you are an employee, then the invention is owned by your employer. These are fairly consistent, although California interprets them somewhat more in favor of the employee. -- This holds even if you thought of the invention on your vacation, using your own equipment, at home, and not necessarily even in connection with your work. As long as you are employed by that company, then they basically own what is in your head.

-- An exception is if you were hired for a non-inventing role such as maintenance, then you probably could invent things without turning them over to the company. -- However, if the company says your idea is in their line of business, or anticipated line of business, then they own it. If you work for an automobile company and have a new mousetrap, the company cannot say they own that invention, because they are not in the business of mousetraps. As it turns out, even if it is clearly not in the realm of what the company is into, it is sometimes difficult to get the company's permission for you to get a patent on your own."
[www.inventorprise.com]

-- "A single fact can spoil a good arguement." & "Failure to prepare is preparing to fail." -- -- authors unkown

-- People will accept your ideas much more readily if you tell them that Benjamin Franklin said it first.

-- "Our story almost came to never being; for if I wasn't persistent, this site wouldn't be." -- I've let a good story get in the way of facts: "Did you know that although the tin can was first introduced in 1810, fifty-one years before the Civil War (1861-1865), the can opener wasn't invented until 1855?"
-- The Book of Firsts

-- This was found in our Time Capsule --

-- Our story almost came to never being; for if I wasn't persistent, this site wouldn't be. -- Never daunting, I steadfastly worked on this website. - Someone, somewhere, has found it. - Hey, that's you.

-- You looked at it and tried to decipher a hidden secret meaning to what this writer was transmitting to a generation a hundred plus years in the future. To those readers who will read these words over and over, and the wisest among them will say, "If they had only known then what we know now."
-- A profoundness in hindsight that will be accepted by all as truth. --

-- Let me separate the fly-specks from the black pepper.

-- 'I-told-you-so' retorts has proven that the cornerstone that contains our future Time Capsule should be opened years sooner.

-- This anticipation is hardly how the real-world operates;- where everyone is offered the smorgasbord and thinks it will always be there when they are hungry.

Well, will it be there? - (Only as long as I can keep it up. - "A good stiff .." for your example.)

-- You are way ahead of our world's curve because I have handed you your inventors waybill to the hidden riches of invention. -

-- You're getting it now on a golden platter, so.. eat, eat, learn..inspire, keep learning. - - Time is fleeting.
Get into the arena.

-- And -- "It goes without saying..." -
Robert Scheinkman, 4/25/2004

-- "The final test of a leader is that he leaves behind him in other men the conviction and will to carry on." -- Walter J. Lippmann

Web Page: http://www.inventorsconnection.org/Topics/42646.html

-- -- An Old Farmer's Advice --

* Your fences need to be horse-high, pig-tight and bull-strong.

* Keep skunks and bankers and lawyers at a distance.

* Life is simpler when you plow around the stump.

* A bumble bee is considerably faster than a John Deere tractor.

* Words that soak into your ears are whispered...not yelled.

* Meanness don't jes' happen overnight.

* Forgive your enemies. It messes up their heads.

* Do not corner something that you know is meaner than you.

* It don't take a very big person to carry a grudge.

* You cannot unsay a cruel word.

* Every path has a few puddles.

* When you wallow with pigs, expect to get dirty.

* The best sermons are lived, not preached.

* Most of the stuff people worry about ain't never gonna happen anyway.

* Don't judge folks by their relatives.

* Remember that silence is sometimes the best answer.

* Don't interfere with somethin' that ain't botherin' you none.

* Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.

* If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to do is stop diggin'.

* Sometimes you get, and sometimes you get got.

* The biggest troublemaker you'll probably ever have to deal with, watches you from the mirror every mornin'.

* Always drink upstream from the herd.

* Good judgment comes from experience, and a lotta that comes from bad judgment.

* Lettin' the cat outta the bag is a whole lot easier than puttin' it back in.

* If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.

* Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly.

-->> > "I really didn't say everything I said!" -- Yogi Berra